IS THIS PEPP STILL LEGITIMATE? 11-Jul-2011

IS THIS PEPP STILL LEGITIMATE? 11-Jul-2011

Image via WikipediaGodfrey BLOOM MEP Drunk, homophobe& without morality or ethics.

Hi,

one is inclined to speculate as to whether this PEPP is still legitimate in the light of the comments of Barbara Booker.

It is also worth noting that The EFD group is teetering on the edge of collapse as the 3 UKIP MEPs of any visible morality and integrity have quit the extremist group wishing to stand as Unattached in The EU's so called parliament rather than be seen to be associated with the extremism, racism, anti Jewish and anti homosexual pro EU membership and some of its particularly vile members.

With the rejection of an offer from Farage, in an attempt to regain the numbers and nationalities required for their continuance the small group of Dutch MEPs have recently rejected the offer rather than be shackled to the vile EFD group.

This would seem to leave The Pan EU Alliance for Freedom (EAF) in competition, if expansion or even stabilisation is required, fishing in the same filthy pond with the same bottom feeders on offer to both - The BNP, Vlams Belang, Jobbik or perhaps The Austrians from what was Jorg Heyder's Party, which is best known for his death in a car crash, or the extreme right wing Nationalist Le Pen family party in France.

Any of these may well be suited to join the extremist groups but it will be a dual of egos and greed by the look of it!

As Barbara Booker said earlier today:

Before getting too deeply into discussion about the statutes of the EAF, it might be an idea to check with Godfrey Bloom whether that party has already collapsed.

When its website first went live it listed under 'About EAF', seven EU countries - the minimum number required for a PEPP - from which its members were drawn. It now states only six, the missing one being Hungary.

This may or may not be significant. Certainly, small PEPPs like the EAF are very vulnerable, especially when one or more of their qualifying members is from a national parliament or assembly where national elections could deprive them of their seats at any time. However, the EAF's Hungarian representative is/was the MEP Krisztina Morvai, a controversial figure (BNP's European parliament ally Krisztina Morvai axed from London conference after protests | Politics | The Observer Outrage over obscene anti-Semitic Internet post by Morvai | Politics.hu) who may still be a member, though airbrushed from the website possibly to avoid alarming UKIP members about to vote on whether their MEPs should join her in the EAF!

Wikipedia, updated four days ago, still has her as a EAF member, and she gave interviews on 3 and 5 July (see Hungarian Ambiance) confirming her membership and claiming that she was invited by the EAF to join it. This is odd, since Wiki also has the three Jobbik MEPs, of which she is one, as members of the Alliance of European National Movements, a pan-European party which the BNP claims will qualify for a PEPP grant from January 2012 Jobbik. I don't think MEPs are allowed to belong to more than one grant-claiming PEPP at a time.

No doubt Godfrey Bloom can clarify Dr Morvai's current membership status, although bearing in mind her alliance with the BNP and Bloom's own unequivocal condemnation of association with that party (press release 'UKIP smash BNP plot and expel infiltrators' 5.2.04: Bloom, "Their views will simply not be tolerated within UKIP"), he might have some difficulty explaining how he came to be forming a PEPP with her in the first place!

It is also worthy of note that it is rather fudging the figures for Farage's squalid EFD Group if Bloom is offering his name to keep it going whilst in bed with the new extreme grouping.

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09-Jun-2011 - UKIP Watcher Barbara BOOKER Has A VERY VALID POINT

09-Jun-2011 - UKIP Watcher Barbara BOOKER Has A VERY VALID POINT

Hi,

in answer to a morally reprehensible question attempting to support the adulation of Japanese War Criminals The Yasukuni Barbara Booker, a long term and meticulously informed and reliable UKIP commentator stated earlier today on a public Forum:

Possibly so, but UKIP members have no influence over the Italian government, Communist ministers or the British establishment. They do have a vote in deciding their own party's future, though, and Bloom is paving the way into the pan-EU party that UKIP will be joining if members vote as Nigel Farage, Stuart Agnew and others want.

As Board members of the European Alliance for Freedom, Bloom, Claeys and Obermayr are officers of their party with responsibility for shaping and implementing its political course. The beliefs and political background of those running the EAF will to a large extent determine how that party is viewed by the media, and therefore the electorate.

If UKIP members vote 'FOR' in the coming ballot they will, although most won't be aware of it, be giving the go-ahead for UKIP to join the FPO, Vlaams Belang and others in the EAF. This will be a much greater degree of association than having just their MEPs join a parliamentary group such as the EFD. All UKIP members will be allied to these other EAF parties and their efforts to win the support of British voters for UKIP and for EU withdrawal is bound to be affected by the way in which the EAF and its officers are perceived.

The enshrinement of executed Japanese war criminals at Yasukuni has been the cause of controversy in the far East for twenty-five years, with the Japanese Emperor refusing to visit the shrine and Japanese politicians strongly criticized for doing so. Claeys and Obermayr were not making private visits, they went as representatives of their parties at an international conference whose organisers had arranged the visit for delegates to "honour" the dead.

Possibly UKIP supporters of the generation that had fathers and brothers suffer in Japanese prisoner-of-war camps would not regard Godfrey Bloom's association with these people as a pretty harmless matter.

They might well be outraged at the prospect of UKIP entering into an alliance with them.

It is good to see, as we watch the morality and integrity of self serving politicians increasingly providing a lead only to the gutter in return for votes.

Votes to keep their snouts in the troughs on the gravy train, to fund hirelings and gofers to act as their paid liars and praise singers to see people like Barbara Booker, with a firm grasp on morality and the willingness to speak out in public in defence of ethical behaviour, and condemnation of self serving betrayal.

I do and have regularly endorsed her well supported opinions as expressed from time to time.

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UKIP: Ms Bonici, Farage and the Pan-European Alliance

UKIP: Ms Bonici, Farage and the Pan-European Alliance

Sharon Ellul Bonici, front woman for Nigel Farage's new pan-European political party, and Maltese Marxist candidate in last year's Euro-elections, has urged the EU to accept a Libyan proposal on immigration, and has voiced her support for the EU's "FRONTEX" border management project based in Warsaw.

She said in a statement that the EU should be able to spare a billion euros towards effectively solving the problem.

Ms. Ellul Bonici welcomed Libya's proposal for a $1 billion in EU aid in exchange for collaboration to stem illegal immigration.

"Some people are saying this is blackmail on Libya's part, but I don't see it that way. Combating illegal immigration is costly. The EU should take this opportunity and make sure it paves the way towards a readmission agreement with Libya," Ms. Ellul Bonici added.

"Then it should strengthen Frontex in order to patrol the EU border and deal with the whole process itself - from asylum applications to readmission and reallocation...íf it takes another billion towards solving this problem it would be a billion well spent" she concluded.

Now we might argue that such political naiveté is a charming little cameo of an island on which compulsory schooling is a relatively new concept. However it is not something that we in the UK might welcome, and in particular the centre-right membership of UKIP might wonder why a UKIP MEP is employing a person who subscribes to such left-wing views. It is the case that UKIP's resident clown, Godfrey Bloom, who left the financial services industry in disgrace after attracting a whopping great fine for his company, is indeed employing Ms. Ellul Bonici as the nominal secretary of Nigel Farage's latest money-spinning pan-European initiative. Of course, this is not a decision that Bloom would have reached on his own - he is Farage's ho, and he does as he is told.

Also see: LINK & LINK

British Democracy Forum PLAYING CATCH-UP ON UKIP NEWS! 29-Oct-2010

British Democracy Forum PLAYING CATCH-UP ON UKIP NEWS! 29-Oct-2010

 

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GLW has a posted a memo from Tim Congdon re the creation of a new pan-European party to be called 'European Alliance for Freedom', and UKIP's possible involvement in this project. Included in the memo is an e-mail from a Sharon Ellul Bonici stating that the European Alliance hopes to become strong in the 2014 Euro-elections, and that MEPs can join either as a Party or as individuals. Godfrey Bloom is listed among those who have confirmed their intention of doing so.

UKIP MEPs sought election on an unequivocal platform of withdrawal from the EU. It is what party members and supporters worked for, contributed funds for, and what the electorate voted for. 'Campaign policies Euro elections 2009', posted to UKIP's website on 8 May 2009, stated: "The UK Independence Party believes that the UK should withdraw from the European Union". 'Campaign letter from UKIP Leader Nigel Farage MEP', posted 11 May 2009, began: "The UK Independence Party is the only moderate, democratic party to advocate Britain's withdrawal from the European Union", and continued: "On June 4, please lend us your vote. Say No to European Union and help UKIP ensure that the future of our nation is decided by those of us who live here. There can surely no longer be any question that Britain would be better off out".

Withdrawal from the EU was and still is UKIP's policy and principle aim, and its MEPs have no mandate from the party or the electorate to sit in the European parliament and speak, vote on or represent anything else.

UKIP MEPs' alliance with those of other, non-withdrawalist, parties in their EP group has always been contentious, but the nature of EP groupings is a loose one whereby the parliament's rules assume (but do not require proof of) political affinity between group members, unless they state otherwise. In addition, the EFD's political platform is vague and allows its different delegations the freedom to vote as they see fit, a freedom which is taken full advantage of with other EFD members frequently voting in favour of motions on which UKIP's MEPs abstain or vote against.

This will not apply to members of a pan-EU party, and those who join the European Alliance will not simply be 'assumed' to have political affinity. In order to be approved as a political party and granted EP funding they will have to agree common objectives and draw up a political programme to work to, which they will have to submit with their funding application. Any change to that programme must be notified to the parliament or the funding will be suspended.

None of the parties or individuals named in the Bonici e-mail, other than Godfrey Bloom, are withdrawalists. They are reformists who wish to remain in the EU and whose political programme will reflect that intention. Even the name adopted by the new party makes no reference to independence or anything else that might suggest withdrawal. Indeed, a European Alliance for Freedom does no more than echo the EU's own description of itself as 'an area of freedom, security and justice'. Any UKIP MEPs joining this party will in effect have crossed the floor to pursue political objectives for which they have no mandate.

They cannot in these circumstances continue to be regarded as UKIP MEPs, and for the party to keep faith with its members and its electorate it will have to expel any MEP who joins the European Alliance for Freedom.

To view the original on what was The UKIP Forum now risibly called The British Democracy Forum CLICK HERE

Prof. Tim CONGDON, Gerard BATTEN UKIP MEP, COMMENTS on BETRAYAL 27-Oct-2010

Prof. Tim CONGDON, Gerard BATTEN UKIP MEP, COMMENTS on BETRAYAL 27-Oct-2010

Could even the UK Independence Party be bribed in this way? Of course not, you might say. Well, unfortunately it's a little more complicated. The last few weeks have seen rumours that a new pan-European political party would be formed, with the UK Independence Party (or at any rate UKIP MEPs) being invited to join. I have been hoping that these rumours were untrue. But an e-mail has been sent to UKIP MEPs by a lady called Sharon Bonici and, if I have read it correctly, it is a clear-cut invitation to participate in the development of a pan-European political party. I understand that it has been sent to UKIP MEPs. Indeed, the e-mail says that Mr. Godfrey Bloom has "confirmed" that he does wish to participate in the new pan-European political party, to be known as "the European Alliance". 

I stand open to correction (and would in fact like to be wrong), but my interpretation of the Bonici e-mail is that extra money will be made available to the MEPs of national parties - not necessarily to their salaries, of course - who decide to belong to the European Alliance. Perhaps Ms. Bonici - to whom I suppose this e-mail will be forwarded - might like to repudiate that suggestion, if it is untrue.

For myself, I would like to reiterate what I have said throughout the 2010 election campaign for the leadership of the UK Independence Party, that
1. I do not want to be a MEP,
2. I intend to finance from my own resources (up to £100,000 a year) a London-based office which is to concentrate on the organization of UKIP political campaigning in the UK, and
3. The centre of gravity of the UK Independence Party must be in the UK.
At the Torquay party conference in September I supported the motion, proposed by Steph McWilliam, that the party membership must be consuulted on the question of UKIP's involvement in a pan-European political party. As is well-known in party circles, Nigel Farage opposed the motion. The motion was in fact carried overwhelmingly. In my view, the party membership must be consulted on a possible development of this kind, which is basic to the purpose and definition of the UK Independence Party, and even in fact to its very name.

Gerard Batten MEP has sent me an e-mail to say that he will respect and abide by the Torquay conference motion.

I hope that all three other candidates in the current leadership election will confirm that they will abide by the Torquay conference vote on this subject and, more generally, will respect the principle of party democracy.

Memo on an e-mail from Sharon Bonici to interested individuals (including UKIP MEPs) about a new pan-European party, to be called “the European Alliance I have highlighted key passages of the e-mail in red. Note that the e-mail refers to:

1. The proposed new party, to be called “the European Alliance”, without clarifying whether – for example – existing Eurosceptic parties, such as the UK Independence Party, are to keep their present names in future elections.

2. The alleged urgency of making a decision about participation in such a pan-European party. (To whom and what are the “paper work” to be handed in? The question is basic.)

3. “European funds” being made “available to us”. (From whom are such funds coming? The European Parliament? Assume that the funds come from the European Parliament. Then – in the event that UKIP MEPs were to participate in “the European Alliance” – their activities would be funded by the European Parliament, an institution avowedly central to the project of European integration.)

4. The possibility of the “consent” of party members, the meaning of which is (to me at least) unclear, but may intended as a fig-leaf to pacify those UKIP members who at the 2010 Torquay party conference voted overwhelmingly that the issue of pan-European parties must be decided by the party membership.

5. Godfrey Bloom, as already confirming his wish to participate in the European Alliance project. (Mr. Bloom is said to be “EFD”, not “UKIP”. EFD stands, of course, for “Europe of Freedom and Democracy”, the existing pan-European grouping to which a majority of UKIP MEPs are attached.)

6. A closing line, in which the European Parliament is acknowledged as having the power “to approve the new Alliance”. This is – almost certainly – the power to approve the Alliance, meaning the power to approve the Alliance in order to establish the Alliance’s eligibility for various monies from the European Parliament because it meets certain criteria of pan-European-ness. 

These notes prepared by Tim Congdon on 27th October, 2010.

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